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Old 10-25-2005, 01:48 PM   #1
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Default Pandaren and Blood Elves

Lets start with the, Blood Elves.(ps get ready for LOTS of reading){PPS: Please note that all info posted in this thread comes from an offical Licensed Blizzard Product titled Alliance and Horde Compindium}

Not all high elves who survived Arthus' purge of Quel'thalas went with the Alliance to settle in Theramore. Many stayed behind in hopes of driving the Scourge from the area, to no avail. They became very bitter when the Alliance went to Kalimdor to fight the undead and never returned to help them defeat Arthas and his army.They hate the Alliance for Deserting them.
These high elves have renamed themselves "blood elves" in memory of their fallen companions. As they struggled to stay alive amid the Scourge, the effect of being away from the Sunwell began to take it's toll on the elves, and many became brooding and dark. To give his people hope, Prince Kael'thas, a high elf noble, embraced their Highborne andcestry. They decided that because their already formidable arcane magic talents failed them in defending their homeland, they needed to find a course taht would grant them even more power. Although They hate the demons that destroyed their homeland and caused the Alliance to abandon them, they see the demons as resources of raw power and magical knowledge and are obsessive about hunting them down. Their common method of going about things is to hunt down the demon, get whatever knowledge from it the can -- using whatever means necessary -- and then dispose of it.
It quickly became clear that the blood elves' numbers would only diminish; they had no homeland, and they were constantly fighting powerful enemies. Hope arrived in the form of Illidan Stormrage. He proposed to defeat the Scourge by killing it's source, the Lich Kin in Northrend. The blood elves didn't care that he was searching for more power for himself in this quest; indeed, they identified with his goal. In illidan they saw a true leader, and elf dedicated to both the removal of the Scourge and the accumulation of as much power as posible. They joined with the naga in Illidan's army and aided him in their former city of Dalaran and later in Northrend. When the conflicts where over, they returned with him to his exile in Outland. Their actions have caused the Alliance to cast them out as traitors, which neither disappoints nor suprises the blood elves.
Illidan failed, but the blood elves have remained in his army, and most resdie with him in Outland. They befriended the naga, whom they saw as brothers, a race with whom they share their Highborne ancestry and the goal of gathering power. Once the Scourge is gone, they plan on taking over Kalimdor and driving out all the hated races. Since the more recent events in Lordaeron and Northrend, the blood elves have discovered many things they'd not had before: leadershin, in the form of Illidan; companionship in the form of the naga; and a homeland of sorts, in the form of Illidan's exile in Outland.
The blood elves are small in number. Becasuse of their dangerous, nomadic lifestyles, creating families to increase their population is a difficult ambition now. One of their main goals is to get more high elves to join their cause. This quest has brought many blood elves to Kalimdor to search for high elves to join their cause. This is unlikely, as the high elves are horrified at what has happened to their former allies. However, the blood elves do not lose hope, and continue with their missons.
Physically, the blood elves still resemble high elves. Since renaming themselves and dedicating themselves to a new purpose, they don mostly red and black. In order to distance themselves fromt heir enstranged kin, they are fond of inscribing red and black tattoos on their faces, arms, and shoulders and of assuming radical hairstyles. The high elves, upon seeing this, threw aside all red and black cloathing for fear of being mistaken for a blood elf. The blood elves do not wish to be mistaken for a "weaker" high elf, but they will dress like the high elves when the need arises. The blood elves are so disliked by the Alliance that they somtimes need to disguis themselves for safety when nearing alliance lands. This still can prove difficult, because the blood elves have difficulty masking their hatred for Alliance members.
The blood elves consider the Naga their allies and friends. The other neatral races taht intrest them are the goblins, dark trolls and forest trolls. The goblins are the only merchants who will sell to the blood elves without prejudice; if an Alliance or Horde merchant would even allow a blood elf to look at her/his goods, they would raise the prices astronomicly. The troll tribes often have items or information of use to the blood elves, and hate the Night elves with almost the same passion. The blood elves have few opinions on the other independent races -- those that worship a divine power are weaklings, and those that remain neutral are of little consequence.
The Alliance represents all the blood elves hate in the world. The humans led the exodus from Lordaeron, abandoning the blood elves to the Scourge, taking many high elves with them. The high elves are weak; they have the potential to reach blood elf status, but they will not embrace the power and therefore of little use. The night elves are remembered as the elves who banished them from their homes so very long ago, and those grudges still run deep. The other races are disliked merely for their represntation of the Alliance -- the freind of my enemy is my enemy so to speak. The Alliance prefers that blood elves stay neutral, as they do view them as a dangerous (and mad, in some cases). The arcane spellcasters in the Alliance agree that the blood elves have gone too far in their quest for power -- even the high elves are sickened and frightened by their former allies' loss of compassion and selfcontrol. The blood elves have little use for the Alliance, and the downfall of this faction is next on their list after they have purged the Scourge from Lordaeron.
The Horde distrusts the blood elves, as their addiction to magic makes the high elves look like amateurs. The blood elves are dangerous, and the Horde races can smell the rotten magic on them. In particular, the orcs revile the blood elves because they see them as descending down the same path towards damnation that so corputed the orcish people -- the orcs can smell the demon taint on the blood elves and know how badly it will twist them. Teh blood elves disdain the Horde as barbarians who refuse to grasp the power infront of them. The especialy dislike the orces, whou should have been strong enough to control the power the demons gave them instead of falling under their comand.
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Old 10-25-2005, 01:52 PM   #2
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All of the races that reside on Kalimdor view the Pandaren with intrest. Claiming to come from an island name Pandaria, which no one has ever visted, these gentle beings bring their love fore beer, their quiet contemplations and their fromidable fighting techniques to Kalimdor to experiance life on the continent.
The pandaren are the smallest of the beastial races and seem positively tiny next to the hulking bulk of the furbolgs. However, they seem much less like beasts than their apparent cousins. The value honor, discipline and friendship above all else. Gain the companionship and trust of a Padaren, they say and you have a friend and protector for life.
Like the furbolgs, taruen and Wildhammer dwarves, the padaren follow a shamanistic faith, worshiping the earthmother. They also follow a new philosophy(new to the other residents of Kalimdor, of course); the are a society that reacts, instead of acting first. They claim to be the water that flows around a rock: The water does not push the rock out of the way, it merely goes around it. They use this thinking in their everyday life. If they set their minds to a task, and they fail, thent hey believe they went about it the wrong way and try again. They do not mourn for failures, believing that they simply have mapped out improper ways to do things and they will know better next time. This philosophy seems simple, but the pandaren apply it to every aspect of their lives, from brewing beer to adventuring. They are calm, affable types who will extend a hand of friendship to a stranger on the road -- but if the stranger is hostile, the hand of friendship can quickly turn into an excruciating joint lock.
They take the same stance regarding their martial arts as they do every other part of their lives. They use what works, perfecting it with terrifying results, and they don't use what doesn't work. If an injured leg won't allow the pandaren to kick very high, he gives up on that kind of kick and perfects another. If up against a massive opponent, the pandaren will not waste time trying to match stregth, as the opponent represents the rock in the river to them. They find a clever way to best their opponent while expending the least strength necessary. They are formidable monks, following their philosophies to the letter and perfecting their martial arts as they see fit.
What may surprise those who encounter the padaren most, howeever, is their unabashed love for beer. Most religious and meditative people on Kalimdor consider alcohol a drink for the masses, a drink whose propeties cloud the mind and block contemplation of the gods. The pandaren laugh at this notion. The ideal day for a pandaren begins with Meditation and ends with a a good drink with a better friend. They love encountering folk who live life to the fullest; they enjoy adventuringl and they are happiest in a tavern swaping stories and buying rounds for the house. Those lucky enough to meet a pandaren and share his ale will undoubtedly find it to be the best beer the have ever tasted. The down side to this, of course, is taht they will no longer enjoy Kalimdor-brewed beer as much.
Although they have been on Kalimdor a short time, the pandaren have already developed a special bond witht he Ironforge dwarves. The dwarves are a race taht appreciates good ale and a good story, and they have many to tell of their own. The pandaren have enjoyed their stops at Bael Modan and the things they have learned of the Alliance, the Horde and the Scourge there. Being a race taht honors their ancestors as well, they aide the dwarves in their search for artifacts when they can. They believe knowing where one coems from is an important aspect of living a full life. They have also made friends in the Half-elves they have encountered, as the half-elves are beginning to adopt the same life-accepting philosophies as the pandaren, and they find them ideal traveling partners.
Most Pandaren have recently arrived on Kalimdor, but there are some that fought in the recent conflicts surrounding Illidan. They were visiting witht he Ironforge dwarves on Bael Modan when the call came to the Alliance to stop the blood elf and naga army travling to Northrend. To honor their hosts, the pandaren joined the fight. It was during this battle that they formed most of their opinions regarding the other races.
The pandaren have liked most of the other independent races they have met. Deciding to remain neutral themselves, they appreciate the other races' reasons for standing safely in the middle. They, understandably, identify more with the races that they have philosophies in coomon with. Some pandaren spent many months recently with the furbolgs, learning of their simple life in Ashenvale Forest. They sympathize with the half-orcs they have met, and simply do not understand the goblins. They, like the other races of the continent, do not care for the blood elves and naga. The trolls are puzzling, as they practice devine magic, but for evil purposes, which doesn't coincid with the pandaren philosphy.
Their fondness for the Ironforge dwarves doesn't put the pandaren in a likely position to join the Alliance any time soon. They feel the Aliance gives to much weight to politics, treaties and arcane magic when, really all one needs to is step outside one's door, taste the air, feel the earth and take one's cues from there. Overall, the Alliance is unnecessarily complicated for the pandaren, and although they do enjoy visiting Thereamore (especialy for the pubs), they don't plan on setting up homes there any time soon.
They have much in common with the horde when it comes to spirituality, but they are unlikely to join their forces either. The horde is formed of races in the midst of healing, themselves before they can allow anyone else to join their fold. Besides, the Pandaren are just visiting.

With all of that said that is exactly why those two races will not be joining either faction.

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Old 10-25-2005, 04:32 PM   #3
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The Horde distrusts the blood elves, as their addiction to magic makes the high elves look like amateurs. The blood elves are dangerous, and the Horde races can smell the rotten magic on them. In particular, the orcs revile the blood elves because they see them as descending down the same path towards damnation that so corputed the orcish people -- the orcs can smell the demon taint on the blood elves and know how badly it will twist them.
So? They allowed the Forsaken to join them, and they had the exact same problems with that race. In fact, they gave the Forsaken a chance becáuse they saw them as a healing race that has been under evil influence but is now improving their ways.
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Teh blood elves disdain the Horde as barbarians who refuse to grasp the power infront of them. The especialy dislike the orces, whou should have been strong enough to control the power the demons gave them instead of falling under their comand.
Yes, but an alliance does not nescesarily mean you like each other, or even trust each other, now does it?
Illidan would be able to convince the Blood Elves to join the Horde because;

a) Illidan was a highborn himself. In fact, it was his recreation of the well of eternity that caused the strife between the Night Elves and High Elves.
b) The Blood Elves might dislike the Horde, but they háte the Alliance. What better chance to kill their enemies? The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
c) Who says the Blood Elves are playing fair? They could be deceitful.

Thrall would join up with the Blood Elves because;

a) They've been in the same thing. The Blood Elves might even take adventage of the Orcs good will.
b) The Blood Elves are enemies of the Alliance.
c) Who knows what Thrall is up to? He might even be deceiting the Blood Elves.


Who knows what reasons the Blood Elves and Horde have to join each other? Maybe those are far more alarming then these petty rivalries. Illidan would be wise enough to understand that, and so would Thrall.

So there's definatly potential. As to Pandaren joining the Alliance? That's just stupid. The Pandaren were first introduced as a joke, and because the audiance liked them so much, Blizzard gave them an actual background. But that background also makes sure people won't think Pandaren would join either faction.

And seriously, most of your post has nothing to do with the subject :/.

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Old 10-25-2005, 04:40 PM   #4
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The blood elves would never join eather side.. there at open warfair with both all 3 sides and they all know it.. the panderan where mecanaries so dont belive they would join anyway staying nutruel is my guess...
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So? They allowed the Forsaken to join them, and they had the exact same problems with that race. In fact, they gave the Forsaken a chance becáuse they saw them as a healing race that has been under evil influence but is now improving their ways. Yes, but an alliance does not nescesarily mean you like each other, or even trust each other, now does it?
Illidan would be able to convince the Blood Elves to join the Horde because;

a) Illidan was a highborn himself. In fact, it was his recreation of the well of eternity that caused the strife between the Night Elves and High Elves.
b) The Blood Elves might dislike the Horde, but they háte the Alliance. What better chance to kill their enemies? The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
c) Who says the Blood Elves are playing fair? They could be deceitful.

Thrall would join up with the Blood Elves because;

a) They've been in the same thing. The Blood Elves might even take adventage of the Orcs good will.
b) The Blood Elves are enemies of the Alliance.
c) Who knows what Thrall is up to? He might even be deceiting the Blood Elves.


Who knows what reasons the Blood Elves and Horde have to join each other? Maybe those are far more alarming then these petty rivalries. Illidan would be wise enough to understand that, and so would Thrall.

So there's definatly potential. As to Pandaren joining the Alliance? That's just stupid. The Pandaren were first introduced as a joke, and because the audiance liked them so much, Blizzard gave them an actual background. But that background also makes sure people won't think Pandaren would join either faction.

And seriously, most of your post has nothing to do with the subject :/.
The thing is the Blood Elves are far from a healing race. As for the Forsaken the Horde is completely blind to their true plans. And if you haven't played one yet in the opening for them it clearly states they are merely in an UNEASY TRUCE with the horde.
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The thing is the Blood Elves are far from a healing race. As for the Forsaken the Horde is completely blind to their true plans. And if you haven't played one yet in the opening for them it clearly states they are merely in an UNEASY TRUCE with the horde.
However, the Blood Elves can make the Horde think they are on path of roses and goodness now.. After all, Thrall has a soft spot for races that have been trough the same.
As to the Forsaken; yes, but they have a harder time due to their looks and even though it's just an "UNEASY TRUCE", they're still a race for the Horde.
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However, the Blood Elves can make the Horde think they are on path of roses and goodness now.. After all, Thrall has a soft spot for races that have been trough the same.
As to the Forsaken; yes, but they have a harder time due to their looks and even though it's just an "UNEASY TRUCE", they're still a race for the Horde.
As part of my first post states tht the orcs can smell the demonic taint of the blood elves. They'd have to do Something WAY out of their character and be REALLY convincing about it before thrall even gave them a thought.
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After you beat the dragons and Mal Stormrage appears doesn't he say that Illidan has gone insane after his defeat?
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After you beat the dragons and Mal Stormrage appears doesn't he say that Illidan has gone insane after his defeat?
Not sure. Never beat frozen throne.
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Not Frozen Throne ^.^

After the Four Dragons thing in WoW that was jsut added in the last big patch. Stormrage appears and talks to Remulos(sp) in Moonglade.
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